Mount Islip

Angeles National Forest

Map the trailhead.

Not even a full cycle of the moon later, I really did climb up Mt. Islip again, this time by a trail that was quite a bit longer. Since Dan Simpson's writeup of the shortest route describes alternate routes with their vitals, I knew there were actually two routes from Crystal Lake. I thought I might do these as a loop while seeing what this mountain was like in the day time and maybe even stopping by the spring along the way. He also noted (and for this hike the datum was only a week old so likely acurate) that the roads were not open above the visitor center, so the larger lot near the proper trail head was inaccessible. Third, he notes that the ridge route is not on the topo.

I grabbed my printed up piece of incomplete information from USGS and headed for the visitor center. I grabbed the last spot in the lot behind it, dodged a batted tennis ball playing at being a cricket ball, and walked in. I asked them where I should park for hiking up Islip and the ranger said he wasn't sure as it was his first day back in 15 years. However, they did have a map drawn such that the mountains are smaller than the campground area that included all of the trails close at hand. Between my exact topo segment and my entirely absurd projection, I had a good idea of where the trails were once I found the common "here" point. Since the campground was closed off, the visitor center was the closest spot.

Well, I had it almost figured out. Once I got to the place that seemed to be where the trail took off, it wasn't quite there. The details were slightly off on what I could see. I headed up one road that should have been the far side of the trail then saw something trail-like a little further along. Going to it, it was a trail. Checking the sign back at the start, it was even the right trail.

Trail starting in the campground and heading up.
Here is the start of the trail and the start of the first segment not on the USGS topo. It is 2.5 miles up to Windy Gap and no mention of Islip by either route. The campground bathroom might be handy sometimes, but it is in the same state as the campground.

The trail through the campground areas is nicely shaded. It looks like the area can have significant flooding events and there are washes on either side. It quickly comes to and crosses a fire road, coming to the start of the trail according to USGS.

more trail and another sign to help us out
It's getting a bit sunny as the trail makes its first crossing of the fire road to S. Mt. Hawkins. Now it is only 2.1 miles up to Windy Gap.

The trail climbs slowly up the valley, swishing a little to make it even slower. It crosses a tiny stream of cool water. I was feeling warm, so I dampened my shirt and a scarf to make the further hiking a little cooler. I had already noticed I'd forgotten my hat in the car and was getting suspicious I'd be a little sorry about that. I wasn't after the stream. Once it dried, I was high enough to be out of the heat.

burned, living trees among orange flowers beside a stream hidden by the growth
Burned (living) trees among flowers by the stream.


more burned trees and distance
Sometimes traveling through stands of burned trees while other spots are full of green.

one mile marker
Reaching the one mile marker. Just 1.5 to go to the ridge.

There were mile markers along the trail to help me know how far I'd got. The first was just before the second crossing of the fire road.

lots of places to go
Crossing the road again. It was well signed, just in case you missed the trail for the road.

Just after the road crossing, the ridge trail joins the Windy Gap trail. The sign for the older trail has vanished, so there's no indication of Windy Gap at this point.

a new trail leading off, a good return route
The trail up to Islip Ridge, just 1.8 miles along, then a little more to the top. It is just 1.2 miles back to the start. Windy Gap is the unnoted direction.

The land the trail is on gets a little more serious about climbing and the view just extends. More of the ridge comes into view and a fire break can be seen along the top of it. The bit of water that is Crystal Lake can be seen as well as the much larger reservoir in the blue-grey distance. A bit of the road in, more mountains in the distance and the valley beyond that. There's occational trees crossing the trail, but not many. Well, maybe a dozen.

the hills and ridges and flats beyond
The Valley opens up as it is seen from further and further above.

trees along the ridge
Looking up at the ridge where the land gets even more serious about going up. Some trees are hanging on and happen to help show just how steep it is up there.

two mile marker
The two mile marker and Windy Gap is just around the corner already. Not far to go at all.

reservoirs and lake in the hazy distance
Off in the distance, the San Gabriel Reservoir makes a large, artificial lake.

small hawk on dead tree, as is their way
While standing among the very noisy crickets, a small hawk alighted upon a distant tree at the end of the switchback.

a little puddle of green water
Crystal Lake reflecting the ridge line below with trail behind climbing up to that ridge.

Reaching the Pacific Crest Trail at Windy Gap presents all kinds of choices. There is the sliver of use trail up from the road and the direct route up to the top of Islip that I took the last time and a slightly longer route to the top via Little Jimmy Spring and then campground along the PCT. In the other direction, the PCT heads out for three more peaks, each one higher than the last, and more. I decided to see the spring and campground, then follow the trail up the mountain from there, a detour that only added about 0.3 miles and the delight of water to the loop.

two trails diverge at a windy gap
Two possible routes up to the top of the mountain. One is direct, but the other has delights for a very small fee in mileage.

on the other side
The road below and a look at the far side of the gap.

route down to the spring
The spring is this way. For the PCT completist, the trail at the other side is the better route down to the spring.

furnature and flowers around Little Jimmy Spring
Little Jimmy Spring has been plumbed so that it doesn't move around and has a number of simple structures and trough built around it. Of course, that water is good for flowers.

the trough
A good place to pick up some more water so long as you've got the means to treat it.

a couple big flowers getting a little bit old
Flowers growing by the spring, except it's getting a little far from Spring for these flowers.

another output of water
A second pipe, this one broken at some point, fixes the exit of a bit more water from underground.

trail into the spring from the far side
There is trail all the way through forming an alternate route to the PCT. This side is an easier, fairly flat, bit of trail.

a field of red on either side of the trail
Some small red flowers make a streak of color by the trail.

Little Jimmy Trail Camp is a well established area with sites all over the place and not one but two seperate biffies for your toileting pleasure. It seemed to be set up for large groups as each site had two stoves built of rock and iron, tables with benches, and a serving table. I sketched a couple of the stoves. An old road came up from the other side and through the campground. Following it, a sign pointed the way to the top of the mountain while the road continued another direction disappearing over a small saddle. There were even more campsites up the trail as well as a funny looking thing that apparently was a rain gauge.

Information sign for the campground so you know it's bear country, biffy so you don't have to go in the woods, and tables and stovepipes of one of the sites at Little Jimmy Trail Camp.

the way up to Mt. Islip
The signed trail out the far end of the campground, or at least it seems to be the far end before finding there's more sites up it.

rain gauge that looks a bit like a cell tower
This is apparently how one measures precipitation in the backcountry.

little yellow flowers with pink on the tips of the petals that hang like bells
Some nice flowers along the side of the trail.

trails joining
The trail up from windy gap joins the older trail from the campground. Someone has put rocks across even though both are sanctioned.

another trail for another route
Shortly before the top, another trail joins up. This is the ridge trail that I followed down to make a nice, big loop. The sign at the junction says 0.1 to the top but doesn't mention what's down this way.

As the trail rounds the mountain top, an old cabin comes into view. The roof is gone (although part of it can be seen on the ground next to the cabin and another part on down the trail), the doors are gone, the windows are gone leaving only stone walls. Then there is the top with a foundation of an old fire lookout. A mighty gap is off to the west while higher mountains are to the east. To the north there are a few foothills and then vast flat desert with the San Andres running down by the bottom of those hills. The south has a few more hills and then another expanse, not quite as flat or dry, full of cities. The late summer day was a typical one where the air is a little bit thicker than would be ideal.

stone walls that offer little shelter
The old cabin at the top of Mt. Islip.


the foundation of an old fire lookout
Concrete pillars to mark where people once watched for fire on the nearby mountains.

the high desert
Looking out north over the flat Mojave desert.


Islip ridge heading on down to the edge of Crystal lake
Southward over Islip ridge and over the mountains and valley beyond. The lake can be seen tucked into the side of the ridge.

After taking in the views and doing a bit more drawing down by the cabin doorway, I packed it up to head down the ridge trail. It was much less traveled than the trail to Windy Gap. The way was generally easy to pick out, but trees across the trail were more common. When it was along the top of the ridge, it would become faint, and when the branches of the trees fell over the trail, it would vanish for a short way. Even so, it was not too hard to follow, just took a little more energy than one might expect due to all the jumping over logs. There were also quite a few flowers covered with pollinators although it feels a little late for that.

red flowers beside the trail
A covering of red puff balls.

bit of trail along the ridge
A bit of ridge with a clear spot of trail winding along just to the left of it.

white stars
Another common flower in the higher altitudes.

bees on the mountain madness
Honey bees on a plant I've always identified as "mountain madness" and mildly suspected an allergy to. Another common one in the higher altitudes and much loved by the pollinators.

a piece of highway 39
These slides taking out just over half the road in two spots may be why highway 39 still isn't allowed traffic. Should have been repaired years ago.

more bees on a flower
A honey bee and a bumble bee delighting in the same flower.

bee filled plants encroaching on trail
These encroaching enthusiastically onto the trail were quite full of the large black bumble bees.

trail mile marker for 4 miles
Just before the junction for the connector trail, a mile marker pops up to say there's four miles from the beginning. That's along the rest of the ridge trail, which can be seen in a picture of Crystal Lake above.

junction for the connector
At the junction, it is 1.8 miles back to Windy Gap, 0.9 miles up to the top of the mountain, and 3.9 miles to the lake along the ridge. The trail continuing along the ridge isn't evident, but must pick up again after the fallen trees which have scattered the walkers to many different paths so that no trail stands out.

There's much information at the junction between the Islip Ridge trail and Big Cienega trail. It says how far it is back to where I came from and along the way I'm not planning on heading, but not how far it is along the planned route. It's probably about 2.3, very roughly, back to the road. As the trail dropped, there seemed to be more trees crossing it, or maybe they were just bigger. Then there was evidence that someone had made a start at clearing the trail. The trunks were numbered and then there was one with a cut in it as if someone had run out of gas or time or both and promising that there might be few trunks to climb below.

a chipmunk on a burned tree
A little bit of wildlife along the way. I also startled a big horn sheep on the way down and a deer on the way up, but they didn't pose for as long.

looking back at Windy Gap
A look back at Windy Gap. The trail can be picked out climbing up to it.

a partly cut log that must still be climbed
Just after the trunks start having numbers, there are better signs of trail work, but this particular bit of work hasn't paid off any dividends yet. The very large log must still be climbed.

another 1 mile marker along a nice bit of trail
Soon after the four mile marker, there is a one mile marker. Shortest tree miles ever.

flying hawk
Two hawks were flying around near a large standing dead tree. They circled a while before flying off.

more hawk
Possibly the other hawk or maybe the same. Curiously, not a red tail.

small white flowers beside another burned tree
A few more flowers along the trail, these showing that the elevation is a bit lower now and there might be some water around. There was a small creek on the way.

hawks sitting instead of lounging in the air
Bird of prey in a tree.

a big flower with floppy petals
One last flower as the sun sets.

The trail was better after the log with the cut, but there were still obstacles. I sort of suspected it would go by the spring it gets its name from, but that trail is actually a little lower, branching off from the fire road a little before the trail up to Windy Gap, at least according to the USGS map, but it also thinks I was bushwhacking from where I turned onto the ridge trail down to meeting the Windy Gap trail again. I did not look for it and the spring but turned down the trail to the campground. At the campground road, I took a left and walked through a different part of it eventually going out a gate on the far side of the parking lot.

the shadow of someone in a cabin doorway that has no roof, so the sun streams through
Me at the top of Mt. Islip.





©2011 Valerie Norton
Posted 27 October 2011

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